{"id":4831,"date":"2009-09-11T22:58:14","date_gmt":"2009-09-12T07:58:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.danielharper.org\/blog\/?p=4831"},"modified":"2010-03-25T15:21:39","modified_gmt":"2010-03-25T22:21:39","slug":"on-telegraph-ave-in-berkeley","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.danielharper.org\/blog\/?p=4831","title":{"rendered":"On Telegraph Ave. in Berkeley"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This evening, I was browsing in a used bookstore. The man standing at the cash register was talking with two women. He had a ponytail and a beatific smile. I noticed one of the women wore a bright orange t-shirt. They were having a long conversation, and I didn&#8217;t pay much attention to what they were saying.<\/p>\n<p>But then I happened to be browsing through the used sheet music, idly hoping to find Irving Berlin&#8217;s &#8220;Blue Skies,&#8221; when I heard the woman with the orange t-shirt say, &#8220;Do you have any Bibles?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Right over here,&#8221; said the man, and walked over to show her the Bibles, which happened to be right behind me.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Have you ever read the Bible?&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Oh, yes,&#8221; said the man. &#8220;Several times, in fact. But I don&#8217;t believe in it. I guess I&#8217;m more of a Hindu.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;How come you don&#8217;t believe in the Bible?&#8221; said the woman innocently.<\/p>\n<p>The man proceeded to rehash some of the old arguments of the Higher Criticism, getting one or two of them wrong. I made it a point to wander away to different part of the store. I felt tempted to involve myself in the discussion and make corrections, but I also felt that perhaps they were flirting a little bit and I didn&#8217;t want to interrupt them.<\/p>\n<p>The man had to go back to the cash register to take care of a customer. When the customer had gone, the woman in the orange t-shirt went over and continued the discussion: &#8220;How come you don&#8217;t believe in the Bible? Don&#8217;t you worry about what will happen after you die? Because life is short, but what happens afterwards lasts much longer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well,&#8221; said the man, still smiling, &#8220;I can&#8217;t be a Christian because I can&#8217;t believe in a God that would damn people to hell. Either everyone goes to heaven after they die, or I can&#8217;t believe in God.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He continued at great length, and I restrained myself from bursting into their conversation and saying, Ah ha, you are stating the case for classic Universalism as set forth by Hosea Ballou&#8230;. &#8212; as I say, I restrained myself, because by now I could sense that the woman was not as innocent as she appeared at first. She was determined to save this poor man&#8217;s soul, to bring him to Christ, or whatever phraseology might be used by her particular sect or denomination. I couldn&#8217;t see her face, but I could see from her body language how intent she was. I could also see from her body language that she was still flirting with him.<\/p>\n<p>At last I couldn&#8217;t wait any longer; I wanted to buy a few books and move on. &#8220;Excuse me,&#8221; I said, walking up to the cash register. &#8220;I hate to interrupt your conversation, but&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The man, still smiling beatifically, cheerfully took my money. The woman stood there, intent, silent. Her t-shirt was very orange.<\/p>\n<p>I picked up my books, saying, &#8220;And now I&#8217;ll let you get back to your theological discussion.&#8221; By the time I had turned away, they were at it again.<\/p>\n<p>I walked back out onto Telegraph Avenue, dodged the drunks, the addicts, and the homeless, wove my way through the well-dressed college students, the hippies, and a few middle-aged suburbanites, until I got to the next used bookstore.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This evening, I was browsing in a used bookstore. 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